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  JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

  by Anony Mous in

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  so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

  if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

  now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

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  @ Jeffro..... good point.
  
  Apparently, there are gnostic versions of a lot of these works by the same names floating around. They are reportedly easy to spot once you know what to look for.
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  JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

  if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

  now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

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  The book of Jasher is referenced in the bible. Enoch is quoted once; and Jubilees was referenced by the early church leaders a lot.. These are best understood as history books, (recommended reading) just as we have history books today. They never claimed to be inspired or infallible, nor were held up as such.
  
  The Go-To resource in my opinion in all things dead sea scrolls related, is Dr. Ken Johnson. He has a website and YouTube channel. He writes "readable" books on many dead sea scrolls (books) sorta like cliff notes that are easy to digest by the common person. I have been listening to his YouTube channel for years.
  
  I believe his work is some of the most interesting stuff going on in the Christian community right now. Many other Prophecy Watchers agree.
  
  He pieced together from dead sea scrolls the original calendar the Jews were using prior to Babylonian captivity, and has a digital version on his website. It was a 364 day calendar which is divisible by 7 and 52 allowing for every festival to consistently fall on the same day of the week. They had a leap week every few years to compensate for the 1.25 days short each year.
  
  The calendar issue was one of the main issues to split the Essenes and Pharisees. The Jews were forced to use the moon based system of the Babylonians when they were conquered by them. and taken as slaves back to Babylon. After being freed, they were supposed to go back to the original 364 day solar calendar that was in use since the time of Adam. But, they didn't which caused a division.

  Most people are unaware that there are hundreds of dead sea scrolls, many of which are just now becoming available. " I found "Gad the Seer" to be fascinating. Most people are bored to death by this kind of thing but I find the whole topic to be utterly fascinating.
  
  Now that we have found fragments of "Testimony of the Twelve Patriarchs" in pre-Christian era dead sea scrolls, we can disregard the critics that claimed this was a medieval work to bolster Christianity. They claimed that because the theology in the book is virtually a carbon copy of New Testament theology. (Too good to be true)
  
  Dr. Johnson's work shows that this theology ("Testimony of the Twelve Patriarchs") was followed by the Essenes to interpret scripture, while the Pharisees used their oral tradition from all their "elder meetings" to interpret scripture.
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  What's the deal with Cheese and Apple Danishes at conventions.

  by pistolpete in

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  this was before my time, but there was this post that had 308 comments testifying that the best thing of being a jehovah witness back in the day was the convention's meals.

  is this true?.

  one quote out of 308;.

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  When I was a teenager (circa 1978), the best thing about the conventions was waking around finding joints that was lost the night before at a rock concert. You could find them along the walls where either a push broom or some electric sweeper pushed them aside.
  
  Then they had to build Assembly Halls. The assemblies made so much more sense stoned.
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  Interesting fossil find in Australia

  by wozza in

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  a 95million year old fossil of a new species of crocodile found with a dinosaur in it.s stomach found story here,,,.

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-12/broken-dinosaur-killer-croc-ate-dinosaur-for-last-meal/100823384?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link.

  well the wts has been lying to the world .because they say no aniimal ate meat before the fairy story flood ,.

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  The WT doesn't believe in a literal plain reading of Genesis. True to form, when something doesn't fit their narrative, they simply wave it away and say this must be symbolic. Once you understand their grift, you start seeing it in all their writings.
  
  They believe in billions of years and progressive creation. They teach this, even though virtually every Hebrew scholar in the world agrees that the language and context of the creative days in Genesis were meant to be understood as literal 24 hr. days. Ex. - "there was an evening and a morning, the first day".
  
  Like most anything the WT touches, they get it wrong. You have successfully refuted the false WT teaching of "Progressive Creation", but not 'Biblical Creation'.
  
  The fossil you referenced does represent rapid burial in a catastrophic event. Biblical Creationists would say this evidence is consistent with a catastrophe like the biblical Noah's flood.
  
  

  
  

  Clams all over the world are found fossilized, tightly together in the "closed position" like the one pictured above. Normally when a clam dies, it opens up and the shells are found in halves.

  
  

  Another example of rapid burial.
  
  After abandoning the false narrative of progressive creation, next stop is abandoning the WT false teaching of "billions of years".
  
  Here's a good place to start. List of 'Not So Old Things'.
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  Scandal and infighting has new article on the drawing board

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  'brothers, we now have the xjw community on the ropes.

  a scandal and infighting among the xjw community has given us new vigor against these ''mentally diseased apostates.

  '' due to legal reasons, we will not name the person.

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  • But such talk can be expected from those who indulge in loose conduct, those who are proud and mentally diseased over questionings and debates, and those who disregard or disrespect God’s appointments.​

  • it-1 p. 35 - Insight, Volume 1
    
    This affair will definitely further the average JW belief that if you leave the WT, you will become mental diseased. No question about it.
    
    
    
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  These lyrics come to mind.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBxSFAnr8zU&ab_channel=LoganC.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  From now on THEY are doing the talking, even though I said that they prepared this.

  That's hilarious!
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  About the above video: I'm confused. Is Lloyd Evans going into a Judicial Meeting? The video looks recent. I figured he had been disfellowshipped for years.
  
  What am I missing?
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  JW’s and Charity Organizations

  by longgone in

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  i was wondering if anyone is aware of the jw’s in general being involved financially and/or as volunteers in charity organizations?

  i was a born in jw for 56 years and left in 2016. as far as i remember there was never any encouragement to help in the community in any way.

  including soup kitchens, tutoring at schools, united way, etc.

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  THIS IS WT STYLE CHARITY :
  
  JW Branch busted for sending out government covid care supplies and attempting to take credit for it!
  
  
  
  
  https://thecounter.org/churches-usda-covid-19-food-boxes-boundaries-church-and-state/?fbclid=IwAR3kBD3Cqrb5DakuAc35SuzWZ6I4Bzwy9ihPiRvptIRPZ7gQ4iSdRsw6FOY

  
  
  
  I thought that all the governments were run by Satan. At least that is what I was taught growing up as a kid. To be consistent, shouldn't they be thanking Satan instead?